Friday, December 06, 2002
fred and I have been exchanging emails for the last day, discussing largely the new shania, but other music-related topics too. enjoy. [fred asked, on his blog, for those who've heard the up! to let him know if it's christmas-list-worthy.]
my first salvo:
--- Thomas Inskeep wrote:
> Fred,
> kinda. Hoping to run a full track-by-track this
> weekend on my blog. The good
> stuff's pretty damned good, but the bad stuff
> (social commentary?!) not so.
> That doesn't help much, does it?
> Tom
Fred responds:
thomas! i knew you'd come through. i'd be interested
in reading this track-by-track. i've heard maybe five
tracks or so: "gonna getcha (good)" (great!);
"ka-ching!" (radiohead meets timbaland!); "when you
kiss me" (delightful); "waiter! bring me water!"
(!!!); and "nah!" (YEAH!) i also like this idea of two
different discs with two different styles especially
when the performances of one track are so varied
("when you kiss me," for example). hard to lose, i
think, when you have someone buy it for you.
thanks for the input, and keep up the good work with
submeat!
-fred
--- Thomas Inskeep wrote:
>
> Fred,
>
> btw: the Christmas list answer is "yes."
> I put 'Elv1s 30 #1 Hits' and 'Forty Licks' on mine -
> records that my Mom can
> easily find at Wal-Mart and won't object to.
> I'm guessing, offhand, that you're working with
> similar criteria.
>
> "Nah!" is marvelous, but I find "Waiter! Bring Me
> Some Water!" wretched.
> That's just based on the lyrics, though - I need to
> spend some time with the
> music. Didn't notice the Tim-meets-Thom on
> "Ka-Ching!" on first listen.
>
> Someone needs to give Shania a NON-rhyming
> dictionary for Christmas.
> And expect to see "I'm Gonna Getcha Good!" in my top
> 10 of 2002, if not
> (outside shot) top 5.
>
> I've meant to ask you this for quite a while, since
> you have a poptastic
> sweet tooth to rival mine: your take on P.
> Diddy/Usher/Loon's "I Need a Girl
> (Part 1)"?
>
> You kick an appalling amount of ass.
> Thomas
[editor's note: can you tell that fred & I have a bit of a mutual-admiration society?]
thomas,
i own _elv1s_, a great set, but i'm a huge elvis fan.
i don't own _forty licks_ since i own everything but
the 80s crap and the insubstantial new songs. beware:
single edits only!
since i no longer have "ka-ching!" on my computer, i
can't point out the exact spot, but it's during the
chorus sweep when shania hits an uncannily yorkian
note.
fwiw, i enjoy "gonna getcha" (pop version) more every
day. best bit: right before the chorus when she sings
"find the tower (??)" blissful.
as far as "i need a girl" is concerned, best puff
daddy single since "all about the benjamins." (i
reference that a lot, don't i?) usher grates on me but
he's still not enough to put me off entirely.
fantastic beat, and who doesn't need a girl to ride,
ride, ride? (i'll let you answer that one. ;))
and thanks once for the kind words. i especially enjoy
submeat because it covers sports! which is something i
always mean to get into but don't besides the
occasional one-offs. 'canes/blue devils fan here;
guess for which sports, and yes, i came of age in the
mid/late 80s. ;)
-fred
and for the last exchange, we go mano-a-mano.
--- Thomas Inskeep wrote:
> I will defend to the end the stones' '80s work,
> especially 'dirty work,'
> which is in my view their best album ever. hmm, blog
> idea?
> and the "undercover of the night" single is dirty,
> grungy, nasty bliss.
>
i really only go as far as _tattoo you_. i did some
mp3 research into the rest of the decade but it turned
up little ("she's so cold" is pretty good, though.)
> "gonna getcha good" is far superior in its country
> version, as is the entire
> album. do you have issues with country? I never see
> it mentioned on vs&l.
>
not at all, really. i'm not a huge fan of *modern*
country. country artists in my collection: cash,
willie, hank sr., george jones, lefty frizzell, roy
acuff, and then a bunch of mp3s.
to me, shania (and mutt) sound much more comfortable
amidst pop soundz. the country versions i've heard
struck me as patronizing.
let you answer that one. ;))
> you are right, right, right as far as it being
> puff's best post-"benjamins"
> single. I love usher's singing - "U don't have to
> call" will be on my best
> of, along w/"I need a girl." fantastic beat, yes!
>
i don't mind his singing. his personality really
annoys me, though. he's very smug.
> you're defiantly welcome.
> and you DO know that the name of the blog isn't
> "submeat," right?
>
yes, but submeat is so compact and handy.
> p.s. you care if I blog these emails as-is? think
> they'd be interesting to
> our readers - Tom & Fred unblogged, as it were.
>
certainly, if you wish. i've had im transcripts
blogged before so why not e-mails. just as long as it
makes me seem as witty and urbane as i do on vs&l, ha
ha ha.
ta!
fred
my first salvo:
--- Thomas Inskeep
> Fred,
> kinda. Hoping to run a full track-by-track this
> weekend on my blog. The good
> stuff's pretty damned good, but the bad stuff
> (social commentary?!) not so.
> That doesn't help much, does it?
> Tom
Fred responds:
thomas! i knew you'd come through. i'd be interested
in reading this track-by-track. i've heard maybe five
tracks or so: "gonna getcha (good)" (great!);
"ka-ching!" (radiohead meets timbaland!); "when you
kiss me" (delightful); "waiter! bring me water!"
(!!!); and "nah!" (YEAH!) i also like this idea of two
different discs with two different styles especially
when the performances of one track are so varied
("when you kiss me," for example). hard to lose, i
think, when you have someone buy it for you.
thanks for the input, and keep up the good work with
submeat!
-fred
--- Thomas Inskeep
>
> Fred,
>
> btw: the Christmas list answer is "yes."
> I put 'Elv1s 30 #1 Hits' and 'Forty Licks' on mine -
> records that my Mom can
> easily find at Wal-Mart and won't object to.
> I'm guessing, offhand, that you're working with
> similar criteria.
>
> "Nah!" is marvelous, but I find "Waiter! Bring Me
> Some Water!" wretched.
> That's just based on the lyrics, though - I need to
> spend some time with the
> music. Didn't notice the Tim-meets-Thom on
> "Ka-Ching!" on first listen.
>
> Someone needs to give Shania a NON-rhyming
> dictionary for Christmas.
> And expect to see "I'm Gonna Getcha Good!" in my top
> 10 of 2002, if not
> (outside shot) top 5.
>
> I've meant to ask you this for quite a while, since
> you have a poptastic
> sweet tooth to rival mine: your take on P.
> Diddy/Usher/Loon's "I Need a Girl
> (Part 1)"?
>
> You kick an appalling amount of ass.
> Thomas
[editor's note: can you tell that fred & I have a bit of a mutual-admiration society?]
thomas,
i own _elv1s_, a great set, but i'm a huge elvis fan.
i don't own _forty licks_ since i own everything but
the 80s crap and the insubstantial new songs. beware:
single edits only!
since i no longer have "ka-ching!" on my computer, i
can't point out the exact spot, but it's during the
chorus sweep when shania hits an uncannily yorkian
note.
fwiw, i enjoy "gonna getcha" (pop version) more every
day. best bit: right before the chorus when she sings
"find the tower (??)" blissful.
as far as "i need a girl" is concerned, best puff
daddy single since "all about the benjamins." (i
reference that a lot, don't i?) usher grates on me but
he's still not enough to put me off entirely.
fantastic beat, and who doesn't need a girl to ride,
ride, ride? (i'll let you answer that one. ;))
and thanks once for the kind words. i especially enjoy
submeat because it covers sports! which is something i
always mean to get into but don't besides the
occasional one-offs. 'canes/blue devils fan here;
guess for which sports, and yes, i came of age in the
mid/late 80s. ;)
-fred
and for the last exchange, we go mano-a-mano.
--- Thomas Inskeep
> I will defend to the end the stones' '80s work,
> especially 'dirty work,'
> which is in my view their best album ever. hmm, blog
> idea?
> and the "undercover of the night" single is dirty,
> grungy, nasty bliss.
>
i really only go as far as _tattoo you_. i did some
mp3 research into the rest of the decade but it turned
up little ("she's so cold" is pretty good, though.)
> "gonna getcha good" is far superior in its country
> version, as is the entire
> album. do you have issues with country? I never see
> it mentioned on vs&l.
>
not at all, really. i'm not a huge fan of *modern*
country. country artists in my collection: cash,
willie, hank sr., george jones, lefty frizzell, roy
acuff, and then a bunch of mp3s.
to me, shania (and mutt) sound much more comfortable
amidst pop soundz. the country versions i've heard
struck me as patronizing.
let you answer that one. ;))
> you are right, right, right as far as it being
> puff's best post-"benjamins"
> single. I love usher's singing - "U don't have to
> call" will be on my best
> of, along w/"I need a girl." fantastic beat, yes!
>
i don't mind his singing. his personality really
annoys me, though. he's very smug.
> you're defiantly welcome.
> and you DO know that the name of the blog isn't
> "submeat," right?
>
yes, but submeat is so compact and handy.
> p.s. you care if I blog these emails as-is? think
> they'd be interesting to
> our readers - Tom & Fred unblogged, as it were.
>
certainly, if you wish. i've had im transcripts
blogged before so why not e-mails. just as long as it
makes me seem as witty and urbane as i do on vs&l, ha
ha ha.
ta!
fred
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